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Tuesday, 24 April 2007


Raimo van der Klein

It is a HOT subject.. There is both interest and reluctance. We are trying, experimenting. Why? Because something fundamental is changing. How would a world look f we would know eveything form everybody all the time. It feeds an adhocracy



Thanks for your comment.

It is a transition period indeed with (normal) resistances but how long will this transition phase be ? Is it eternal due to increasing accelleration of innovation and Singularity ? Will these widen the generatinal gaps even further (as Joi Ito remarked in 2005) ?

I believe we are entering lifelogging with a closed social network group at first (just like our own group in Twitter right now), perhaps enriched with some global brain collective intelligence in the background of our lifestreams as to watch trends, emerging memes and so on.

In my view lifelogging is quite personal so the inner circle of contacts will have undifferentiated total access to your lifestreams while people in the outer circle might be given access rights selectively and the other way around.


The whole subject is adressed ftom the wrong main point. The benefits for the participants should be leading. Since the benefits of sharing this valuable data will depend on the transfer it is more intrigueing to wonder what transfer can take place.
The rest is just logistics, and therefor meaningless ;-)



Thanks for your remark.

I agree with you. Logistics is relatively unimportant. It is all (still) about value exchange but this value is different from 20 years ago. It is deeper and broader and the user is the owner and in control. The user benefits are indeed key here, I agree totally. Information, community, transaction, entertainment and eLearning all play a part in my view. The user might share data with some advertisers to get something valuable in return like:
- discounts
- personalized offerings (content, products)
- free exclusive state of the art market research (reports)
- free and exclusive workshops, DIY tools or amateur academies
- access to the social network of the advertiser (Ning e.g.)
- ...

There are many ways (more than ever) to exchange value these days.

EJ, what are your ideas of value exchange here ?

Yuri van Geest


This link clearly shows that lifelogging is about value exchange. Youngsters seem to allow for mobile ads and while getting something beneficial in return. More than 80 percent. It is all about permission, opt-in and relevancy.

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